Prepping food the night before

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Bruinwar
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Prepping food the night before

Post by Bruinwar » 25 Oct 2024, 16:43

Is it okay to prep breakfast for our pug the night before? Meaning adding the enzymes to her food with warm water, let it sit for 20 mins, then seal & refrigerate it.
It would be nice if she didn't have to wait for her breakfast. It's been years since she was diagnosed & she still has trouble waiting.

She's been doing GREAT & mostly because of what we've learned from this forum!

Thanks,
-joe

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Re: Prepping food the night before

Post by Eddiespaghetti » 25 Oct 2024, 17:37

In terms of efficacy, there have been studies they say incubation has no affect on the enzymes. You may not need to incubate at tall. This might a route to consider. There have been some people to try to pre-incubate sometimes it works sometimes not so much. If you decide to not incubate you just need to make sure all the enzymes are completely moistened so they don't stick to the puppos mouth causing sores.
You could also try micrazym or Creon, those don't need any incubation because they are coated.

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Re: Prepping food the night before

Post by Olesia711 » 25 Oct 2024, 19:54

Hi Joe,

regarding preparing the food ahead of time and refrigerating. Try it. See if it works or not for your pet... The way to determine this is watch the poo output for 3 for about a month..... if you notice them going a little sloppy, and/or listen for any SID/SIBO/Dybsiosis symptoms to appear. if you notice ANY, then go back to preparing the food, incubate and serve.

Regarding incubation. Yes, there is old research that says incubation is not necessary. HOWEVER... that being said a good portion of the EPI dog owners have attested to when they don't incubate their dogs develop SID/SIBO/Dysbiosis. This is another situation where you simply have to "Try it".

Some dogs do perfectly fine with no incubation, but we have run across so many EPI dogs that don't do well unless the food is incubated with the enzymes for an average of 20 minutes, that this is why we (overall) recommend incubating. It's easier to just make it part of the protocol then trying to fix a possible problem that could have been avoided..

Now, above and beyond that 20 minute incubation recommendation. That came about as an average of what works best for most dogs. HOWEVER.... if you are willing to try things....and have the patience.... Try reducing the incubation by 10 minutes for 3 or so days... and see if the poos remain the same ... if so then reduce the incubating by another 5 minutes ... again, see if poos remain the same. If yes, then try no incubation and see what happens.

Years ago i tried this on my EPI dog.... she actually only needed her food incubated for 5 minutes. However i discovered that if i didn't incubate her food at all, within short order, her poos got sloppy and then SID/SIBO kicked in. After that i just went back to incubating 20 minutes. BUt that was easy for me as my dog was fine with "waiting".
Olesia, was owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.. Izzy passed away on February 13, 2020 at 15 years old. She lived with EPI for 13+1/2 years. It was because of Izzy that Epi4Dogs was started... she was the inspiration. May her legacy of helping others with EPI continue for as long as needed.........

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Re: Prepping food the night before

Post by Bruinwar » 26 Oct 2024, 06:58

Thanks Eddie & Olesia!

We will try it. This all makes perfect sense & as usual, we get our best information from our friends at epi4dogs!

Our Shadow has done very well for a long time & is now 14 years old, deaf with some cataracts, but sweeter than ever.

kindest regards,
-joe

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Re: Prepping food the night before

Post by Olesia711 » 28 Oct 2024, 16:40

Joe,

You are very welcome. PLease keep us posted!
Olesia, was owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.. Izzy passed away on February 13, 2020 at 15 years old. She lived with EPI for 13+1/2 years. It was because of Izzy that Epi4Dogs was started... she was the inspiration. May her legacy of helping others with EPI continue for as long as needed.........

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Re: Prepping food the night before

Post by KayleighCollins » 31 Oct 2024, 04:12

Bruinwar wrote: 25 Oct 2024, 16:43 Is it okay to prep breakfast for our pug the night before? Meaning adding the enzymes to her food with warm water, let it sit for 20 mins, then seal & refrigerate it.
It would be nice if she didn't have to wait for her breakfast. It's been years since she was diagnosed & she still has trouble waiting.

She's been doing GREAT & mostly because of what we've learned from this forum!

Thanks,
-joe
In general, you should prepare your pug's breakfast the night before but there are a few things to consider to ensure the enzymes still work effectively.

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Re: Prepping food the night before

Post by Vitalaqu » 31 Oct 2024, 17:50

Yeah, prepping breakfast the night before sounds like a solid idea! I do that for my dog sometimes, especially when mornings get hectic. Just be sure to store it well in the fridge so the food stays fresh and the enzymes stay active. It definitely makes mornings easier when they don’t have to wait too long.

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