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Re: Pre and Probiotics for SIBO?

Posted: 03 Aug 2022, 08:19
by maya193
Tuckaboo Pam wrote: 02 Aug 2022, 20:24 Debbie--- Have you considered Tylan for SID? I ask because Tucker takes 1/16 teaspoon daily, also Proviable & slippery elm. Occasionally SID flares up, but for the most part he does well on our routine. --- Pam
Hi Pam, I tried Tylan and proviable and it was a mess, unfortunately. After 2 weeks and constant diarrhea, I stopped. Do you think it's worth trying a small tylan dose with pre and probiotic and see if that works? Or would I need to re do the 45 day initial plan, etc. It's been so frustrating.... :(

Re: Pre and Probiotics for SIBO?

Posted: 03 Aug 2022, 09:26
by Olesia711
Debbie... did you try them separately initially?

If not AND if you started the proviable at the full dose.. then what i would recommend is the following:

1. Try Tylan again... and give it three days.... give twice a day with breakfast and dinner.... here is the dosing chart: https://epi4dogs.com/antibiotics/

If you do not see a positive response by day 3... don't bother giving any more Tylan.

2. Then try giving less than 1/2 the recommended dose of the proviable (break the capsule open and divvy up the probiotic..... save the rest for the next day... and ditto.... if after 3 days if you are seeing worse diarrhea... then stop.

3. so ... if none of the above works... then try a little slipper elm powder... the dosing chart is here: https://epi4dogs.com/antibiotics/ ... FYI...with slippery elm more is not always better... it is a fiber so you want to give just enough to help not to give so much that you go in the opposite direction and give loose stools.............

Re: Pre and Probiotics for SIBO?

Posted: 03 Aug 2022, 10:05
by maya193
Hi! So she was on the proviable first (1/2 recommended dose) and then I added the tylan.....probably not the right way to have done it. So I'll try the tylan first by itself as suggested and see what happens for 3 days and then take it from there! If she does ok after 3 days should I just continue for the 45 day regimen again?

Re: Pre and Probiotics for SIBO?

Posted: 05 Aug 2022, 13:07
by Olesia711
yes :) if The Tylan appears to help continue for 45 days

Re: Pre and Probiotics for SIBO?

Posted: 06 Aug 2022, 18:09
by Fuzzysmom
Soil based organisms were the only thing that worked for Fuzzy, during recovery after diagnosis of EPI and the inevitable SIBO flares. I used the Prescript assist no pea. It is the same as the Pet Flora except more potent. So a large dog needs 1 capsule of the Prescript Assist rather than 3. Fuzzy was given 2 a dose but he is a 175 lb dog. This along with slippery elm kept him from having to do the Tylan regimen. He does get milk based enzymes now as well through his food but I still give the soil based 2 every other week or so and keep them on hand in case of a flare up. No SIBO flare in 4 months

Re: Pre and Probiotics for SIBO?

Posted: 06 Aug 2022, 20:37
by Olesia711
thanks Melanie for letting us know the soil based probiotics worked for your dog.... good to know!
when we share what does work and doesn't work... over time we start to get a feel for what kinds of things work best for these dogs, so any "experience" with products are always welcome and helpful!

Re: Pre and Probiotics for SIBO?

Posted: 07 Aug 2022, 12:28
by maya193
Thank you Olesia and Melanie for all of your input! It really is trial and error and I'm taking all of this into my "info bank".....lol!!!!

Re: Pre and Probiotics for SIBO?

Posted: 07 Aug 2022, 12:49
by Olesia711
Yep.. Trial & Error.... and Patience .....which IMHO is the hardest part :)

Re: Pre and Probiotics for SIBO?

Posted: 07 Aug 2022, 16:10
by Fuzzysmom
Yes it's all trial and error. So many times I was at wits end until I tried something that worked for another dog , and the 5th thing might be what works for Fuzzy. I've got more pictures of Fuzzy's poop than of Fuzzy, I'm sure. :lol: This site is priceless

Re: Pre and Probiotics for SIBO?

Posted: 07 Aug 2022, 20:33
by Olesia711
gotta love those poop pictures... they sure tell a LOT... but i am waiting for the day when the internet gestapo flags us for indecent photos..........hahahaha!