Do I need to give b12's to my dog?

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Do I need to give b12's to my dog?

Post by Mavis2021 » 13 May 2022, 14:07

My dog is a one year old german shepherd, her b12's were good with the bloodwork. I bought b12s for her anyway because I heard a lot of epi dogs need extra b12s. Is it okay to give them to her?

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Re: Do I need to give b12's to my dog?

Post by jilbert57 » 13 May 2022, 14:23

Hi Eden. Will you post your dogs test results? The B12 needs to be kept upper high range so 600 and higher. Extra B12 is excreted in the urine. Please post what B12 you have. Thanks.

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My name is Jill and we live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. We currently have 2 Jack russells, TJ is 6 and Sadie is 8months.

Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
He lived from 6/99 - 8/2014

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.

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Re: Do I need to give b12's to my dog?

Post by Tuckaboo Pam » 14 May 2022, 08:28

Tucker's B12 was 666, and a staff member said to supplement him anyway, and that he would tinkle out whatever he didn't need. It's not a great expense. --- Pam
Tucker is a shepherd/lab mix; he has tested positive on the ScheBo test for EPI, as well as the fasting TLI. Results--- TLI 1.3, Folate 9.7, Cobalamin 666, Lipase 38. Currently taking Diane's Enzymes 4 teaspoons/day, Wonderlabs B12 one capsule per day, two capsules slippery elm/evening, 1 Proviable capsule/day, and Tylan 1/32 teaspoon/ morning (to hold SID at bay). Sport Dog Elite, herding dogs 4 cups/day, with a couple tablespoons of Fresh Pet mixed in, because everybody else gets some. No more poop eating, has gone from 60 to 95!!! pounds, and he is a happy member of the family, though a bit of a stinker, if you ask the other dogs. Tucker is my boyfriend, and my husband is OK with that.

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Re: Do I need to give b12's to my dog?

Post by Jean » 20 May 2022, 04:39

Their b12 (cobalamin) can plummet over night, so I would definitely supplement and if there is ANY SID Small Intestinal Dysbiosis, it will deplete any b12 they store, as the bugs will feast on it
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My Kara born 21 July 2009 diagnosed with EPI by cTLI test August 2010 TLI = <1...folate 14 Cobalamin 408, shot down to 94, b12 injections every other day

Lowest weight 39 pounds

We used Panzym enzymes, Tylan and Chemeyes b12 capsules

Sadly, on 10th May 2019, we lost her to DM


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Re: Do I need to give b12's to my dog?

Post by RoseHeathcote » 11 Jul 2022, 02:51

Supplementing with b12 is quite necessary, but it is necessary to consult a doctor. gartic phone

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Re: Do I need to give b12's to my dog?

Post by Olesia711 » 11 Jul 2022, 10:48

With an EPI dog, it is not necessary to consult a vet before giving B12 since over 80% of ALL dogs with EPI have insufficient B12 levels... and if it is not needed the dog will just pee out any excess..

Unfortunately not all vets are aware of this and don't even mention it to EPI pet owners.... so it is something we NEED to always be aware of and make sure our dogs have enough B12, AND make sure our vets are aware that EPI dogs B12 levels NEED to be in the upper mid-range ..... just in range is not good enough.............
Olesia, was owned by Izzy, a 35lb Spanish Water Dog (SWD), Diagnosed at 1.5 years old - TLI results 1.. Izzy passed away on February 13, 2020 at 15 years old. She lived with EPI for 13+1/2 years. It was because of Izzy that Epi4Dogs was started... she was the inspiration. May her legacy of helping others with EPI continue for as long as needed.........

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Post by Barb » 11 Jul 2022, 17:23

Yes, I remember Kolby's appetite and weight did not increase until we got his B12 levels up. Then he began to thrive.

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Re: Do I need to give b12's to my dog?

Post by louisamurray19 » 16 Jul 2022, 21:21

Our pup has just been diagnosed with EPI and my vet has said I need to give our Corgi B12 injections once a week for 6 weeks and then every other week for 6 weeks, then retest. However, I would prefer to use the Wonderlab methlcobalamin formula capsules. Those are 1000mg/capsule. How do I know what the capsule equivalent would be and how often, vs the injection that would be only once a week?
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Re: Do I need to give b12's to my dog?

Post by jilbert57 » 17 Jul 2022, 08:53

Hi Louisa, I started a thread for you and Belle titled" B12 question".

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My name is Jill and we live on the Hood Canal in Washington State. We currently have 2 Jack russells, TJ is 6 and Sadie is 8months.

Mickey and his pancreatitis brought me to Epi4dogs.com site in 2012 to help manage it.
He lived from 6/99 - 8/2014

Mickey, Jack Russell. Chronic Pancreatitis. Dianes enzymes, 1/8t 3x/day with meals.

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Re: Do I need to give b12's to my dog?

Post by louisamurray19 » 17 Jul 2022, 13:52

Thank you. I could not find anywhere to click on New Post. Didn’t know if it was just a timing thing with my acceptance being pending or brand new. Thanks again!!

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